Nov 19, 2012 3:00am PST
. >> john: right we know that was the reason for our attack on egypt. we know there were demonstrations throughout the middle east because a tv show has been showing the trailer. did the state department just get bad intel? i'm having a difficulty understanding the right-wing theory of what kind of cover up there could have been. >> we know she basically read when she did her round of sunday talk show appearances the weekend after the attack. we know what that intelligence said at least the unclassified version of it that were given out after the hearings on friday said, and it is exactly what she said on tv but that leads to the question of where that intelligence came from or why the talking points were constructive in that way. >> john: this is where i think it gets confused for conservatives and liberals the talking points came from the cia, right? >> yes but petraeus said the talking points were not representative of everything they knew. >> john: isn't the most likely explanation is they were trying to handle things discretely and between libya and the u.s.
Nov 16, 2012 3:00am PST
going on with israel and gaza right now. with the new government and egypt and how that may play out. vis-a-vis the dispute between -- there are a lot of concerns that aren't in this sort of immediate wheel house of the fiscal cliff. that the white house is watching. >> something of a falling out between president obama and john kerry and the reason i bring that up is john kerry obviously has made it clear he wants to be secretary of state when hillary clinton leaves. had it not been for john kerry who was then a state senator from -- giving the prime time keynote speaking spot, barack obama doesn't have a campaign in 2008. in some sense, you could say john kerry is really the reason why president obama won in 2008. you would think that president obama owes john kerry and john kerry is in all of the debates steadfast supporter. yet john kerry is being floated as secretary of defense and it is susan rice who seems to be in line to be secretary of state. what's going on there? >> well, there's a couple of things going on. on